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BrandonE
12 Dec 2010, 12:24:31
#1
[Event "Live Game"] [Site "Caissa's Web"] [Date "2010.12.12"] [White "hostt"] [Black "BrandonE"] [Result "0-1"] [TimeControl "600"] [WhiteELO "1530"] [BlackELO "2700"] [ECO "D10"] [Opening "Slav defense"] 1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 dxc4 5. e3 b5 6. Nxb5 cxb5 7. Qf3 Bg4 8. Qxa8 Qa5+

Spud
12 Dec 2010, 20:01:53
#2
Ouch!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jackflanders
13 Dec 2010, 00:45:21
#3
....very nice...
yaman
13 Dec 2010, 04:43:35
#4
yep very neat.
thornydevil
14 Dec 2010, 09:18:09
#6
[Event "?"] [Site "?"] [Date "????.??.??"] [Round "?"] [White "?"] [Black "?"] [Result "*"] [WhiteELO "?"] [BlackELO "?"] %Created by Caissa's Web PGN Editor 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nd4 4. Bxf7+ Kxf7 5. Nxe5+ Ke8 6. Qh5+

Two questions about this game where I am white.
In an adventurous frame of mind, I played 4.Bxf7+. Can black safely take the bishop?
question 2, black did take the bishop and got deeper into trouble.What would the good players here have moved as black's 6th move.
BrandonE
14 Dec 2010, 09:31:57
#7
Yes black can safely take the bishop on f7. If white follows 5.Nxe5+, black should move 5.Ke7, thus nullifying 6.Qh5+ and leaving black in fair shape. If say from your present end position and black does play 5.Ke8, then after 6. Qh5+-g6 7.Nxg6-hxg6 8. QxRh8 black answers with Nxc2+ forking whites King and Rook. As for black he should have answered 3.Bc4 with Bc5 or Nf6, thus following the Italian game type opening.
Edited on 14 Dec 2010 at 12:19:01
thornydevil
14 Dec 2010, 09:53:44
#8
Thanks BrandonE. Here is how the game continued
[Event "?"] [Site "?"] [Date "????.??.??"] [Round "?"] [White "?"] [Black "?"] [Result "*"] [WhiteELO "?"] [BlackELO "?"] %Created by Caissa's Web PGN Editor 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nd4 4. Bxf7+ Kxf7 5. Nxe5+ Ke8 6. Qh5+ Ke7 7. Qf7+ Kd6 8. Nc4+

and black is doomed, but as i suspected, it need not have ended this way.
BrandonE
14 Dec 2010, 09:59:57
#9
Well instead of playing g6 blocking the check and thus sacrificing his rook a move later it cost him the game. He could have won back the rook had he played Nxc2 after white takes the rook on h8. All in all the position after Bxf7 could be played more so in blacks favor than whites, but alas thus is human error. I make blunders too. Mine are just more subtle.....sometimes. I hung my queen in a correspondence game about a week ago. I must not have been wearing my glasses!! Thats a good excuse.
Edited on 14 Dec 2010 at 14:22:36
yaman
14 Dec 2010, 21:36:48
#10
after 6 g6 7nxg6 hxg6 8Qxg6+ ke7 9d3 Isn't White winning ?
BrandonE
14 Dec 2010, 21:54:47
#11
Do you mean this position after 9. d3? I dont see any such advantage for white after black 9. Ne6 I would absolutely pass up the Nxc2+ fork with the rook and post my knight on e6 for extra protection against the next Bg5+ At any rate after 10. Bg5+-Nxg5 11. Qxg5+ it would be a trade queens game or even a draw by perpetual check.

[Event "?"] [Site "?"] [Date "????.??.??"] [Round "?"] [White "?"] [Black "?"] [Result "*"] [WhiteELO "?"] [BlackELO "?"] [SetUp "1"] [FEN "rnbq1b1r/ppppk3/6Q1/8/3nP3/3P4/PPP2PPP/RNB1KBNR w KQkq - 0 1"] %Created by Caissa's Web PGN Editor

yaman
14 Dec 2010, 22:29:26
#12
you're right ne6 seems to at least hold.If theres anything for White here I don't readily see it
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